I used these shells in the #6 load during ten days of hunting wild pheasants in South Dakota. There were no preserve birds, period. I used them in my Benellli 28 gauge Legacy. I used an IM choke. Nearly all the birds I hit fell dead, no wounded on crippled birds to speak of. I did not feel outgunned by fellow hunters with 12 gauges. I have also hunted doves with this load and have had the same excellent results. How impressed am I? I am about to order a Perazzi 28 gauge in no small part because I have confidence in this load.